Todd Ogasawara and Emil Reyes discuss the pros and cons of the recently released iOS 7 for iPhone and iPad in this podcast. Neither one bought a new iPhone 5c or 5s. So, their experience is based on upgrades to the iPhone 5, iPad mini, and iPad 2.

They also devote a segment of the podcast to discuss the news that the Computer Chaos Club has found a way to fool the iPhone 5s’ fingerprint reader.